Cold Thermogenesis 12: Getting Back “On Board” With My Message

Cold Thermogenesis 12: Getting Back “On Board” With My Message

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Readers Summary:

  1. What was I going to say on the low carb cruise?
  2. How did a masterpiece of artwork inspire my thoughts?
  3. How does leptin and cold thermogenesis unify into neolithic disease caused by inflammation?
  4. How do examples in your life who use cold remain in your blind spot?
  5. What is Factor X and how does it speed up epigenetics?

Well, it has been a very interesting last few days but I am not the kind of person who looks in the rear view mirror to run my race. What happened happened and it will all come out in the wash eventually. I am a person who runs their own race by looking forward via the windshield as I step on the accelerator pedal to live my life. If we focus on the past we lose sight of where we are headed and the road to Optimal. A reader of mine, Dan K, sent this gem to me, “I heard the Dalai Lama once say in a lecture that our worst enemies are your greatest teachers because they allow you to examine the emotions of anger and revenge and then to transcend them. They give you the exact tools you need to elevate yourself to the spiritual energies that eliminate problems and provide solutions.” So today, I am moving toward the Paleo template and away from the “Paleo Radical Insurgency” who is steering the community into an abyss. There are too many people who need help and not the surrounding drama. The time has come to become, Epi-paleo, a term I mentioned at my Paleo fx speech, and that is what I will be building here on my blog and forum from here on out.

An event that appears to be a tragedy to one, might reveal the seeds of unlimited opportunity for another.

On the Low Carb cruise I was going to present some of the things that happened in my mind at the base of Michelangelo’s David in help me realize that the missing piece to the obesity and insulin resistant story was the “off switch” in how we make fat and how we continue to make fat cells. Gary Taubes was scheduled to be the featured speaker for the cruise, but he could not attend, so Jimmy Moore asked me to step in his role. Gary wrote a book called, “Why we get Fat” but I clearly am not Gary Taubes, and I was not here to tell them why we get fat…I was going to tell you how to reverse being fat and insulin resistant…because unlike, Mr. Taubes, I have done it myself and pretty successfully. Obese humans have a difficult life to live. I know the life they live because I was one of them for close to decade. It is very hard to take advice from someone who has never had obesity. To understand the mindset one has to have walked in the shoes. Most of the people giving out advice however have not had a successful track history of losing the weight and keeping it off. The reason for this is they are prisoners to modern dogma of fatness.

What are we socialized to believe about fatness today?

  • Calories in / calories out is all that matters
  • You need to exercise to burn fat
  • You’re fat because you’re a glutton
  • You’re fat because you’re lazy or a sloth
  • You’re body is too damaged to get fit / lean
  • You don’t have enough will-power
  • You don’t have self-control
  • Eating fat makes you fat
  • You can’t get rid of fat cells; you can only shrink them
  • Carbs make you to be fat

Did that last one catch you off guard low carbers? Good.

I never have believed that carbs made us fat intrinsically. The “Paleo Radical Insurgents” who thought they knew what I was trying to convey to the readers often put many words in my mouth they thought they heard. My belief is far different based upon the Ancient Pathway theory I have developed. When we add fat to adipocytes we create new fat cells. Environmental toxins and dietary choices are what fills the fat cells and causes them to divide. We know what makes us fat biochemically from foods, but we are learning about the effects of fat generation from the environmental toxins presently. The real gap in our knowledge is we do not understand the linkage between the brain and the fat cell’s membrane and how they signal one another and how it is controlled at the hypothalamic level.

The cell membranes of those fat cells are how the fat mass is communicated to the brain is the critical step in understanding the obesity story in my view. The consequences of the fat collection results in increases of adipocytes. The more adipocytes we have the more insulin resistant, leptin resistant and adrenally resistant we become. The goal of fat reversal and insulin resistance is to eliminate the excessive fat cell membranes present in us. How do we do that?

In conventional medical practice today the advice we give to the obese who have insulin resistance is that they need to lose weight and diet and exercise. The only way for humans to lose fat cells today that we normally employ is to perform plastic surgery and remove the excessive number of adipocytes. Going on a low carb diet is an excellent way for an obese person to lose weight, but it is not an excellent way to sustain your weight loss forever. Many people in the low carb community are living this way now. I used to struggle with the same problem. How do I know this for sure?. Because “evolution” uses its own version of plastic surgery to remove the adipocyte, reduce leptin, raise adiponectin and change the balance of resistin in our fat mass. What is Mother Nature’s scalpel? Cold Thermogenesis is the short answer.

How did I come to this conclusion? The synthetic Leptin trial data from Amgen is that answer. Many people thought synthetic leptin would cure obesity and it did not. Amgen found that the synthetic leptin often did not work on the morbidly obese. Initially, they lost weight on the drug, but the weight loss could not be maintained off the drug. Also they all had issue with glucose regulation. Their fasting BG, called the dawning phenomena, was often difficult to control. What solved these patients problems? Plastic surgery did. When this subgroup of patients had surgery they had unreal improvements across the board. Amgen researchers did not put two and two together initially. The reason for this is plastic surgery removed the number of adipocytes in their body, which improved signaling between the fat mass and the hypothalamus. It allows the brain thermostat to work ideally. Amgen abandoned synthetic leptin as a pharmaceutical target and then began work on drug development on the TRPM8 channel receptors. What are they? They are the peripheral cold receptors. In May of 2012, a new protein was just linked to the BAT receptors and just published after my theories were published here. Moreover, Dr. Myers group also found new hypothalamic receptors that link directly to NOS, which I mention in CT-6 is the gateway chemical to the Ancient Pathway. All this was published in the last 6 weeks? Am I still nuts, as the “Paleo Radical Insurgents” have diagnosed me over the internet with their psycho babble crap?
The surface cold receptor papers were one of the six papers that I was given when I hurt my own knee that I mentioned in Jimmy’s original podcast with me in 2010. This linked the cold to adipocyte loss. Even today Amgen is still working on this target. When I realized this I knew that the Leptin Rx reset would take care of the low carb portion of the equation to limit fat into cells. Moreover, I knew that the cold would eliminate fat cells if I came up with a protocol to do it. So that is how I came up with marrying the Leptin Rx reset and the CT protocol together to change me in 11 months.

My results with both are found in photo 1 (my before) and  in photo 2 (my after).

Here you can see the day I explained the Leptin Rx reset to my son and my nephew at Walt Disney World.

Photo 4 is their after’s shots.

So what happened at the foot of Michelangelo’s statue to synthesize all this in my mind?

Listen to this podcast I did recently about the entire process.

At the base of that statue I realized that the environmental control of the fat cell number was a critical part of the equation that remains in most people’s blind spot even today. The key factor was the temperature of the environment because it controls whether the adipocyte will be taken out of the body via apoptosis or not. This was backed up in Amgen’s synthetic leptin trials, NASA data on the Sherpa’s, and the work in developing Zeltiq at Mass General in 2008.

The control of these fat cells is primarily controlled by the environment. Modern humans never face a winter as I laid out in this podcast above. As time has passed, evolution has speed up and so has epigenetic signaling. Epigenetic signaling is how we control the adipocyte number the cell membranes it creates. The cell membrane is the key to insulin resistance (IR). This is controlled by epigenetics and the environment the mammal lives in. Genetic determination is dead these days and we know epigenetics are the prime mover for the human genome today. What interacts first with the environment in our biology is the cell membrane in our skin and the surface cold receptors. The surface cold receptors are intimately linked to the Magnesium/ATPase where energy production is made or where calories are burned as free and no ROS is generated.  Decreased ROS means less aging as well.  This is why the cold preserves us and tissues.  It why the Ancient Pathway confers a longevity benefit.  When one becomes Leptin resistant the Mg/ATPase become inefficient and IR and diabetes are the eventual outcome if this continues chronically. This is common in modern humans as we never face a winter any longer. This leads to issue with glucose control and fasting BG as well.

Today we have 60 million pre or formal diabetics in the USA. At 357 pounds I knew I had to think differently about my obesity than I was taught to. So I did. I first destroyed my cravings for the foods that helped fill my fat cells with the Leptin rx reset. It worked well. Then I used what I learned from Amgen, leptin, Sherpa’s, NASA, and other eutherian mammals and applied to cold to decrease the number of fat cells and help expedite the fat loss. Again my results in 11 months were extraordinary. The skeptics and haters still remain present, despite outstanding results. They did not know what I knew and many still don’t believe in it but it has worked for me twice now. Once in 2007 when I lost 157 pounds, and recently in 2012 during my TEDx bio-hack experiment. People have gotten the same results in my clinic in Nashville and many more can be found in my internet forum and my blog comments at my site.

Denise Minger (awesome blogger and better person) recently said that anecdotes are valuable for coming up with theories but theories need to be tested in an experimental design. My sensibilities are quite different today than that of Denise’s because I have to deal and treat these ‘train wrecks’ daily as a surgeon. My perspective is ‘altered’ because of my clinical experience. Today’s healthcare system is set up to take care of only sick people and not designed to make them well permanently. We teach, and do things that are 180 degrees opposite to how we should be doing things. Those failures are obvious to us who are not blind. We see the results in health care statistics and in places like Wal-Mart and Walt Disney World daily. To those who call for Randomized Controlled Clinical Trials for my protocols, who will pay to test a theory that no one can make money on? I hear nothing but crickets from the NIH or the pharma industry!!!!! Ice water and cold are not going to make anyone money.  The timing of eating foods and seasonality dietary choices are no cash cow either.

Moreover, does the PALEO even have a RCT to sit upon today? No it does NOT, and yet, we have a community advocating for it violently without that data? Ironic, no? Why the disconnect between the two?  Dogma is the short answer.  And this is why I think ‘Paleo Radical Insurgents’ connected to ‘this community’ stole my identity and set me up to appear like a bio-terrorist. My version of Optimal or Epi-paleo scares them greatly for some reason. It seems when your ideas are different in conventional medicine and in the Paleo world you might face the same response. I find that quite ironic. I also believe this is why so many “leaders” allowed this nonsense to go and remained silent. Well, now the consequences are in ‘your lap’ and hopefully in ‘your minds’ for years to come. It’s time to step up and be counted in the coming months.

So what should we consider doing?

When there is no money to be made in a cure (see the synthetic Leptin story) there is NO SENSE in going to RCT in the literature to state your case because it will be never be done. The counterintuitive way to solve the problem is to offer it free to the obese and IR public to try for themselves for 30-60 days. Does this sound familiar to any one? It sounds like what Robb Wolf says in his book that is considered the bible in this community. Patients are the one group of people who “love free ideas” (think drug samples in CW terms) that they can try at home to see if it’s paleoquackery or ingenious. That is precisely why I went this route. We have 60 million people already sick and likely 100 million more in the queue behind them. When you factor in my belief that epigenetics is sped up because of Factor X, the problem grows worse daily and disease shows up in children that should be present in the elderly. Something is radically wrong, and yet we keep doing the same shit over and over again and expecting a different result. Waiting for a RCT makes no sense to me as a clinician in today’s world. I bet it makes a lot of sense to someone who is a PhD researcher however.  This is how they stay in business. My job is to get people well today. Big difference here folks. This is where the “theory of the ancestral template” becomes divorced from the clinical gravity of what I treat today.  Should I remain quiet to the disconnect or do I try to shine light on it? This is where the hate mongering came from that lead to the LLCruise nightmare. In drastic times, we need to bring the battle to the front lines for people to test. What we are doing today is not working. If we do the same thing over and over again and get the same result we create insanity.

Look at my pictures again, and remember my story.  See what I did to my son and my family. I have had two family member who were diagnosed as diabetics…neither one is any longer. My own wife was a diabetic and she no longer is…

Success is 99{a7b724a0454d92c70890dedf5ec22a026af4df067c7b55aa6009b4d34d5da3c6} failure. We need to embrace our failure to find the freedom that can force us to think differently about a problem to solve it.

When we live in our failures long enough and we remain observant sometimes from unconventional thoughts come extraordinary results.

Medicine is a results driven business. Science is driven by reductive experimental design. I am a physician and surgeon first and not a scientist. I pay deep attention to clinical observations.  The blogosphere mixes those true missions and this causes confusion in the community and hatred in some cases, as I was recently the victim of.

I have a duty to do no harm and heal people with illness. I have no duty to create a RCT that will take 25 years to prove what I have found to work in me, my family, and my patients while billions get ill and die needlessly.

So I put my ideas on the internet for the world to dissect and try. Many criticize it, and I turn the cheek, because I only care about the results people get.

After all my oath was to do no harm…So let me ask you, how harmful is the advice to eat a seasonal diet of whole foods and make sure you never forget to feel a winter as the seasons change and our life goes on?

I do this by forsaking synthetic drugs and look for big fixes for biologic mismatches.

In my view, Optimal health is there for the taking…if we are open to it and want it.

It is no longer a mystery unless you are blinded by modern day dogma.

When we feed our mind a strict diet of exceptional thoughts, you stop trading your greatest ideas for the illusion of security.

In closing this talk/blog, I want to let you know I have a webinar scheduled for May 19th where I will be exposing what Factor X is and how it causes a sped up epigenetic program in modern humans. Seating is limited to 100 and only 25 seats remain.

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  1. Michelle Ducote May 8, 2012 at 4:11 pm - Reply

    Jack, thank you for the work you do. I started following a Paleo diet/lifestyle 11 months ago, and have lost 134 pounds. Last month, my weight loss slowed down…actually stopped for several weeks. I began your leptin reset a week ago and have lost 9 pounds. My cravings are gone…as is the desire to “snack” mid-morning. I’ve just begun your CT protocol…and I can’t wait to see/share my results. I still have quite a bit of weight/body fat to lose, but I know I’m on the way to Optimal. Keep up the great work, Dr. K.

    ~Michelle from Austin, TX

    • Jack May 8, 2012 at 5:13 pm - Reply

      @Michelle your story puts a smile on my sad face today…….just awesome.

  2. Joe Brancaleone May 8, 2012 at 4:31 pm - Reply

    “who will pay to test a theory that no one can make money on?”

    that is one seriously haunting question.

    • Jack May 8, 2012 at 5:09 pm - Reply

      @Joe I totally agree and I just don’t see why anyone would do a RCT on CT, the Leptin Rx, or the ancestral diet for that matter when there is no money to be made……in fact, money will be lost by the current healthcare system, food agricultural complex, and advertisers………maybe I am looking at this from too an obtuse view……..but doubt it. Sickness is a big thriving business if you ask me……..the only ones interested in wellness are patients………so we take the message to them directly.

  3. coldbren May 8, 2012 at 4:42 pm - Reply

    Thank you again Dr. Kruse, I am one of many who is running and doing cartwheels today while 4 months ago took 5-10 minutes to be able to stand upon waking. I haven’t written any testimonials on your forum yet because I believe my story still has so far to go….I know my current results are amazing, but I also know my future results can be miraculous!!!!

    • Jack May 8, 2012 at 5:13 pm - Reply

      @Cold Bren I loove hearing this especially today!!!!

  4. Weila Smith May 8, 2012 at 5:06 pm - Reply

    seems like the people who like to clear out the school with a phony bomb threat never grow up. your post was positive and you have risen above it, but it gets me mad. we don’t need our scarce public security resources being used up by a-holes.

  5. paulalynn May 8, 2012 at 5:10 pm - Reply

    Success is 99% failure.
    Dr. Kruse, I just had to tell you I had goosebumps when I read that line!

    Thank you for everything you are doing for all of us. Here you are giving us another blog post after the last couple days of craziness! I’m glad you don’t focus on the rearview mirror!
    With Gratitude,

  6. Dali Dula May 8, 2012 at 5:27 pm - Reply

    Man oh man why are all these people so pissed? All this criticism from people who haven’t even read your stuff and haven’t attempted to put into practice your protocols. Shut up. This man is saving lives more safely and less expensively than anyone else I have come across since I have been diagnosed T2D. Just try it. It won’t hurt you. If it doesn’t help you move on. Jack, the people out here who you have helped have deep gratitude for what you are doing. Thank you from the bottom of my healthy heart. Please don’t ever stop.

    • Jack May 8, 2012 at 5:29 pm - Reply

      @Dali…….my conscious wont allow me too. Thank you for the kind words. Its been a rough couple of days.

  7. Lee Dorgan May 8, 2012 at 6:01 pm - Reply

    You know, my pediatrician was a nasty guy like you. He actually prescribed epsom salt soaks and he liked my suntan. I admit, he did give lollipops for shots, but told me to save it til after I ate my next meal. He began practicing before penicillin, a double edged sword.

  8. Lee Dorgan May 8, 2012 at 6:01 pm - Reply

    I would like to be lee

  9. Carina Sage May 8, 2012 at 6:08 pm - Reply

    Jack, we here in the community are “the wind beneath your wings,” just as you are ours. Relax into the comfort and joy of knowing that you are respected, admired, and appreciated by all who frequent your presence and accept your gifts to us here. We will give back to you in equal measure through our enthusiastic acceptance and gratitude. You are our example, our mentor and our hero. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

    And so it is,

    • Jack May 8, 2012 at 6:54 pm - Reply

      @Carina thank you for the gorgeous words…..they help…… believe me.

  10. Elin Duke Potter May 8, 2012 at 6:10 pm - Reply

    Excellent, Dr. Kruse. Thank you. I’m going to read this to my husband so he’ll finally understand what I’m doing and why we have so much ice in the back fridge.

  11. Dawson May 8, 2012 at 6:12 pm - Reply

    Another fantastic blog posting.

    • Jack May 8, 2012 at 6:57 pm - Reply

      @Dawson thanks…….I had to use my staycation and all the work I put into the talk to some good use no?

  12. Carina Sage May 8, 2012 at 6:19 pm - Reply

    PS to the above: I am 35 pounds lighter and greatly improved in stamina and strength since beginning your Leptin protocol at the first of the year. A couple of days ago I shoveled half a yard of compost/ top soil from the bed of my truck, wheelbarrowed it to my garden, filled the raised beds with it, did some weed-whacking to meet the fire season deadline and to discourage rattlesnakes, and covered my rv with shade cloth against the coming heat. All this from being a sedentary, obese female senior citizen at the beginning of January. Well, I’m still a senior citizen, and still female; the rest has changed, and I’m filled with gratitude!

    Many thanks, Sage~~
    72, and getting younger by the minute 🙂
    Now I just gotta get up the willpower to do the CT!

  13. AmyK May 8, 2012 at 6:35 pm - Reply

    I disagree that “patients” are the only ones interested in wellness… YOU, myself, and many other health care practitioners are interested in wellness for everyone, too. What we need to embrace is that if there continues to be a need for our professions, our practice will LOOK different than it currently does. I work in a pharmacy in a grocery store… can you imagine the concept of “let food be thy medicine” transforming modern grocery store/pharmacy combos into the ultimate resources for local grass-fed/finished meat, seafood, seasonal vegetables, etc., with a small selection of medications and supplements for getting people to optimal and/or treating acute trauma???? I can see it. I welcome it. If it means I can no longer earn a living there, well, I’ll do something else!!!

    • Jack May 8, 2012 at 6:56 pm - Reply

      @Amy I did not become so interested until I became one of them………that is the truth. When you are part of the conveyer belt you often are not aware of it. Many of us are not. I was one of them not that long ago. I changed and so can anyone. It’s a choice.

  14. Randall Chapman May 8, 2012 at 6:54 pm - Reply

    Dr. K. I hope you found Thomas Kuhn’s book “the Structure of Scientific Revolutions” for your Kindle, and have had time to read it. That story has so many parallels with your journey. There are phases that great new thinking needs to go through before it becomes “what we are socialized to believe as true.” I hope you enjoy the book and I know it can provide you another perspective to put your journey into perspective. As for me, 12 weeks and counting with CT and all my N=1 data is consistent with your theories, no anomalies! :o)

    • Jack May 8, 2012 at 7:41 pm - Reply

      @Randy I did and down loaded because of you but I have not had any time to read it because of what I been through.

  15. AmyK May 8, 2012 at 7:16 pm - Reply


  16. Randall Chapman May 8, 2012 at 8:05 pm - Reply

    Dr. K. No worries! Maybe the book will be one of your future reviews. I have read it 3 times over the years and learn something new and profound each time i read it. Enjoy!

  17. Randall Chapman May 8, 2012 at 8:31 pm - Reply

    Explorers get shot in the back by the pioneers who then become the settlers that rename streets in honor of the explorers–sometimes. Way of the world. Galileo ended up under house arrest for the rest of his life after his ordeal with the inquisition. Sometimes, rarely, the explorer lives long enough to be vindicated or receive credit where credit is due. Sometimes the explorer gets no credit because the pioneers and settlers rewrite history in their favor.

    • Jack May 8, 2012 at 8:54 pm - Reply

      @Randy…….Arrow have been replaced by tweets these days………

  18. Lawrence Daher May 8, 2012 at 8:34 pm - Reply

    Dr. Jack, I for one appreciate what you do more than you know, and the number of people who I am sure feel the same is huge! I have been able to help myself, my dad, & two friends all because of what you do & have done! Thank you, thank you, thank you. You have always made yourself available to us & given of your time & talent more than anyone else I have encountered would. You are one in a million & a treasure. Keep moving forward, we have your back.

    • Jack May 8, 2012 at 8:55 pm - Reply

      @Larry I appreciate the sentiment but my back is not who I need to worry about…….it is the enemies within who are the culprits.

  19. Jenn Cook May 8, 2012 at 10:03 pm - Reply

    I suppose there’s some ironic comfort in your having enemies. “They” say you haven’t made it until you have haters. There are people in the world who are so uncomfortable with change that they will go to perverse lengths to punish those who color outside the lines.
    I’m sorry you couldn’t stay on the cruise. I’m sure you were excited and looking forward to it. But you have reached so many people, and continue to do so, that it really was a very minor setback. AND you are using their hate to get more publicity for what you know in your heart and mind to be right, so it backfired on them! Keep your chin up, li’l trooper! *laugh*

    • Jack May 9, 2012 at 6:30 am - Reply

      @Jenn I have to be mindful of my family. My wife and kids did not enjoy this and they are worried about the wacko fringe of this community who are cyber stalkers. This group of people are pretty easy to finger if one begins to peruse the blog comments around this community.

  20. Darleen Michael-Baker May 8, 2012 at 10:04 pm - Reply

    Jack I just read what happened. I am SO sorry. There are nutty, mean-spirited people out there who live to hurt others. You have, unfortunately, made yourself a target by being so willing to share your insights with all of us.

    Please don’t let them stop you. What you are offering, I absolutely believe, is going to change things regarding our general health and well being on a massive scale. It may take time as all good things do, but that change will come. And the haters out there will not be able to stop it.

    • Jack May 9, 2012 at 6:31 am - Reply

      @Darleen This will not stop me but after speaking with some of the more prominent people I may come up with a new course of action and plan now.

  21. Yelena Habryshuk May 8, 2012 at 10:31 pm - Reply

    What happened, Darleen?

  22. Susan Carlson May 8, 2012 at 10:43 pm - Reply

    Hey Dr. K, Great Blog this one. I wish I can say this hater problem will never happen again but I know from experience it will probably get worse before it gets better. Sometimes it comes down to just perseverance and the passing of time. It takes a lot of energy to fight what you are showing the world. They will eventually tire out or one hopes they will as the success keep racking up.

    A small happy sign on the way to optimal wellness for me. Went to get my hair cut today and my stylist went all ballistic on me. “What did you do to your hair!?? It is 3x thicker in the back since the last time you were here. I noticed it a little bit the last time but this time it is really noticeable.” I told her about the magnesium supplementation, the can of salmon almost daily, and the paleo diet since mid february. She said, “keep on doing what you are doing because this is a serious improvement.” I will be happy when the hair starts to fill in more on the top. She showed me places where it was starting to come in the front and sides. Small miracles. I thought I would be one of those bald old ladies in my 90s some day. Thanks!

    • Jack May 9, 2012 at 6:21 am - Reply

      @Susan I am always better live talking than writing!!!! This was my cruise talk. I am glad you liked it and I love your hair story. Just told my wife about it. Your not going to be bald……your feeding our hair well.

  23. Jason Blanchard May 8, 2012 at 11:05 pm - Reply

    Heya Jack, i am from Quebec,Canada and unfortunately i didnt find your blog when i was back home ,i am currently travelling thru asia and europe so it is sort of impossible to do any of your cold thermogenesis,back home i was pretty strict paleo but that is difficult as well while travelling. I really love your articles and the way you spread your knowledge, i was wondering if you could answer a question tho. I am underweight, at least in my mind at 150pounds and almost 6foot, very very skinny and i want to gain weight, ive read your leptin reset prescription and even seen the thoughts you have for underweight people but you mentioned at one point in a comment that if you have trouble gaining weight to add back in refined carbs, do you really believe thats the best way? i want to gain weight up quickly through weight training but from what ive come to understand even high amts of good quality carbs just end up trashing your system and you feel like shit…is there a way to do this through high amts of protein/fat? any thoughts? i want the mass but i also want to do it in a way that i feel as good as possible too.. thanks in advance and keep up the great work!

    • Jack May 9, 2012 at 6:34 am - Reply

      @Jason it is possible to CT anywhere in the world so location is not a problem. When I say refined foods I am speaking about BCAA powders. I think the upgraded Whey we have on our recommended list is precisely what I had in mind for people in your shoes. I also would make raw dairy a staple when using BCAA. I think eating a ton meat and sweet potatoes is also not a bad idea for someone like you

  24. Resurgent May 8, 2012 at 11:34 pm - Reply

    @Jack @ All

    Socrates once said, “I am like a midwife. I will bring out what is hidden in you.” This is a tremendously apt definition of what Jack has been trying to do. Both nectar and poison dwell within us all and this is what gives us the glorious freedom to choose whatever we wish to become. The right education will be the one that shows us the path.

    What Jack does is the search for truth. It cannot start with any belief. Its basis has to be doubt.

    And most importantly, to be authentic, this must be value-free. It should not give you any kind of dogma or morality or even any certain special kind of ethics.

    That is why dogma is always orthodox, conventional, conformist. It is never revolutionary. That’s why a health revolution has not happened up to now, because revolution can happen only through education, only through right education.

    Dogma only prepares you for a world which is no more in existence and it does not prepare you for a world which is coming, arising, which is dawning – so you will remain a misfit. You will never be able to live rightly. If you follow dogma you will feel yourself out of date, un-educated.

    Clinging to dogma is, in an indirect way, clinging to the past, and to cling to the past is to live a ghostly existence. You will never belong here, you will never belong to the present. The more dogmatic a person is, the less relevant he is to the times he lives in. He is very competent about the past, he is very competent about all that has been; but he is incapable of living “here-now”, and he is utterly incapable of penetrating into the future. He cannot be an inquirer, he cannot investigate. He becomes just a believer. I dare say that whoever these people against Jack are, they are political agents, of the past – poisoning the future.

    Each of us carries within us the seed of supreme development, of that ultimate perfection within him, and unless those seeds are fertilized we will remain barren. Our situation is not unlike that of seeds sown in the earth. Only when they are watered and cultivated do they sprout; only then do they poke through the soil and reach the light of the sun. And the sense of anxiousness, the feeling of restlessness that exists between the sowing and the harvest is an excellent sign, because only after restlessness can there be peace. And non dogmatic education can intensify, can sharpen this wonderful time of restlessness in young people.

    Only when we move away from dogma, a new man and a new humanity will be born. Our future depends on this. The fate of mankind is in the hands of education. If man is to be saved from himself it is essential he be reshaped, re-created. If this does not happen, the animal in man will destroy him.

    What happened with Jack just showed us that animal.

    • Jack May 9, 2012 at 6:48 am - Reply

      @Resurg You alway hit the spots in your posts here with me and they are a joy to read. Thank you for the kind words.

  25. Grace McGran May 8, 2012 at 11:37 pm - Reply

    Thank you for rising above the disheartening fiasco and responding as I imagined you would by sharing the information intended for the cruise audience. Living optimally is, in this case, the best revenge. Everyone who has experienced and benefited from your generosity of spirit will also share the pain we know this outrageous treatment has caused you. I laughed aloud when I read Carina Sage’s post above because, other than being 61 rather than 72, I could have written that post word for word right down to the raised beds, though I was shoveling horse manure and don’t have rattlers to worry about, just bears and cougars. Afterward I ran a chainsaw, cut and stacked wood for several hours. I’ve never had this kind of strength and stamina before in my life! I’ve lost 40 pounds in less than 4 months…and I’m postmenopausal and have hypothyroidism, which means statistically it’s nearly impossible for me to lose weight. I feel unbelievably fortunate to have the chance to share and implement your knowledge and inspiration. I tell everyone I care about to come here and read, read, read. Thank you, again.

    • Jack May 9, 2012 at 6:50 am - Reply

      @ Grace you are all doing a good job of cheering me back up for sure!!!! Thanks for sharing your results! Just Awesome

  26. Ruby Kittany May 9, 2012 at 12:31 am - Reply

    This is too weird. A doc with some 3,000 likes on Facebook who goes around extolling the virtues of cold baths and eating right provokes such a hostile reaction? Why? Is it because you are onto something really crucial, Dr. Jack? I guess you could look at this as a compliment of sorts. Your message must be an “inconvenient truth” for some. As for what it is about, hate or envy etc – there’s a Jewish saying “if it’s unclear what something is about, it’s about money”. All the best, Dr. Jack, as always!

    • Jack May 9, 2012 at 7:05 am - Reply

      @Ruby I personally think that if you buy the Paleo fx DVD series which is coming out this Friday, you will see a panel discussion where myself, Robb Wolf, Mark Sisson, and Dean Dwyer talk about what could happen to take Paleo down………and Robb’s comment was that We might be our own worst enemy. And I think Robb words were prophetic in regards to what happened to me. Dean Dwyers comments really hit home because he talked about Malcolm Gladwell’s book that spoke about Grafitti and bad behavior. Social scientist have found when you allow even the slightest misbehavior it escalates into utter chaos. Dean words also were spot on because there is a faction of moderators at several controversial sites who allow this and their manner of moderation fosters this behavior. They particularly got singled out at Paleo fx. All of us just decided to avoid the site from here on in. The moderators on those sites are particularly worrisome as well. Ultimately, you the reader has achoice of what and where to go…….and I think it should never be taken from you. But the manner in which I respond and answer things I have total control over. So I have decided to actively avoid that site and the people associated with it. They are infamous across all internet forums because of how their site operate and how the moderation is allowed to act. That wont happen in most places. I think if you come here, to MDA, to Robb’s site, Jimmy Moore’s site’s or go to Dean Dwyer’s site you can get all the advice and help you will ever need that will be done in a manner to help you succeed without judgement. When people ask me where they should go when I cant help them those are the places I go to. podcasts are another go to place. For diet and nutrition I like Whole9 and Balanced bites and I love to support people who believe in community and not the destruction faction of this community. I think this incident with me will help to clean up the “grafitti” that they helped create and foster to hurt this community. You the readers also have incredible power and leverage in helpign sculpt this community by making the decision where to go and who to communicate with. Never forget that power of choice. This community had many great people within it and a few Hunter-Gather-Haters that we all need to avoid.

  27. Brad May 9, 2012 at 12:45 am - Reply

    there’s a Jewish saying “if it’s unclear what something is about, it’s about money”.

    That is awesome!


  28. Petra May 9, 2012 at 12:57 am - Reply

    Hi Jack,

    Besides the medical point of your blog and soon to be life-work it is interesting to see how reactions float in and how you cope with that. For sure a lot of trash is coming your way. For certain a lot is still to come in the coming time.

    Cherish the starfishes you saved, like your wife, son, friends, patients. You know, real people. For them you did matter.

    Fill thy mind with glorious thoughts,

    • Jack May 9, 2012 at 7:07 am - Reply

      @Petra those starfishes results made me realize that there is a moral imperative to help all I can……..because if I am right many will be able to save themselves.

  29. Jasmin May 9, 2012 at 2:40 am - Reply

    Please dont ever stop what you are doing – and dont ever change. You have made a difference for so many people. You give hope and the wisdom to change our lifes for the better. I believe in you and I know that there are so many others who belive in you and have seen their life change drastic for the better.
    Dont ever change – thank you for all your work and devotion

    • Jack May 9, 2012 at 7:08 am - Reply

      @Jasmin thanks for the nice words……and fear not, this wont change me……it will embolden me.

  30. TheKid May 9, 2012 at 5:58 am - Reply

    I’m coming into this whole Low Carb Cruise mess late; but I felt compelled to say something. I don’t post on other sites, but since it seems everybody is reading and scrutinizing Jack’s site, I might as well just post here.

    This is what happens when people don’t know how to play nicely. It reminds me of grade school, when kids would fight over toys, and in order to teach everyone a lesson, and in the absence of knowing who started the fight, the teacher would just take everybody’s toys and end recess early. Well the authorities have just played the role of teacher.

    I just hope that there isn’t overwhelming blowback on the whole community of people who are taking alternative approaches to health and wellness. I don’t know about the rest of you, but I need Jack and everyone else (yes, everyone else) to find success. Otherwise, I fear so many will continue to have to suffer under a broken healthcare system that will do little more than manage us in an orderly manner towards an early grave.

    To all those who have a problem with Jack, I have this to say: Could you please just write scholarly articles that shed light on where you think he had problems? He needs that feedback and all of us need it too.

    And could everyone, whatever your dietary inclination is, just attempt to speak with a sense of moderation and respect?

    As for Jack’s more “controversial” approaches, I think people really need to look at the bigger picture. The human body is filled with secrets we are yet to unlock; and kudos to the people pushing the envelop in order to give at least some of us a chance at a better life.

    As a serious athlete in my youth, I did things on a daily basis that many people would consider impossible. And because of the circles in which I traveled, I met athletes who could do things that would blow your minds. If you had seen me back then, you would have thought I was a freak, what with all the dietary restrictions, blood testing, special equipment, long hours, etc.

    So much is possible when we open ourselves up to the possibilities. Yes, you can CURE diabetes. Yes, you can withstand temperature extremes. Yes, you can be Mark Sisson, a 60-year-old man with a body most 30-year-olds lack.

    No you don’t necessarily need that bowel resection, that gall bladder surgery, that statin, that Ritalin, those sleeping pills, etc.

    The fact is, MUCH stranger, more controversial and surely more objectionable stuff is happening behind closed doors in scientific labs around the world as we speak. Heck, they just confiscated pills in South Korea that were manufactured in China using the skin of aborted fetuses. And I am sure more horrific crap is going on elsewhere.

    What Jack is doing is tame by comparision. People don’t complain about other stuff, because all they see is the end product. You use you beauty products and don’t give a single thought to the animals that suffered in order for those products to be safe for humans. You clamor for more stem cell research to treat incurable conditions, but you never give a single thought as to where those stem cells came from.

    The only reason people even have a chance to criticize Jack is because he is doing research out in the open for all to see. He could have done all this in secret, figured some amazing way to package it, and then just exploit it all as a business opportunity. Instead, he’s donig science out in the open for all to see, for all to critique, and for all to benefit.

    I think a simple thank you would be more appropriate.

    Is Jack perfect? Of course not. Who is? He has his foibles and I hope he continues to improve himself over time. I hope we all can become better people as we mature throughout our lives. I just hope we can all do that without ending up in messes like what happened on the cruise.

    My 2 cents.

    • Jack May 9, 2012 at 7:12 am - Reply

      @The Kid Excellent commentary…..and spot on. And this is from a guy who knows what I a like because he has the opportunity to speak to me on a very personal basis. Thank you for this.

  31. Andres Suarez-Gonzalez May 9, 2012 at 6:24 am - Reply

    Sorry Doc, but I think you are mistaken. I think RCTs will be done whenever your method sticks out a little more, they will be designed to fail, though. This has happened several times already whenever clinical practice go ahead of science without any money to squish by Big Pharma: vitamin C (clinical experience by Dr. Klenner and Dr. Cathcart versus ridiculous doses), antineoplastons (clinical experience by Dr. Burzynski versus replication of altered protocol) and dietary cancer management (Dr. González versus NCI). I have no idea if the latter two do work, but I have experimented myself the effectiveness of the former, all meanwhile doctors keep receting inefficient drugs (pharma’s profit) to deal with viral diseases.

    All the usual doctor will see is an abstract and perhaps a conclusion section, apart of grandiose media coverage, the manipulation hidden under a lot of words and misinformation.

  32. TheKid May 9, 2012 at 7:19 am - Reply

    @Jack You are most welcomed. Keep doing what you’re doing. Grow, improve, develop, break new ground, be fearless. Do it all!

    Quick question: The blue-blocker glasses do not seem to be goggles. Isn’t is a problem if blue light is able to enter the eye from around the edges? I was assuming that you would need to have actual goggles that would fit all the way over the eye so as to exclude every last bit of blue light. Your thoughts?

    • Jack May 9, 2012 at 7:50 am - Reply

      @The Kid goggles are best but pricey. So I think glasses are a good trade off. If you want to absolutely eliminate it…..then goggle it.

      As for me…….Close your eyes and think back to 1997’s Apple’s commercial………Think differently.

      Here’s to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They’re not fond of rules, and they have no respect for the status quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them. About the only thing you can’t do is ignore them, because they change things. They push the human race forward. And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

      So thank you, to the ‘science part’ of the Paleo community who fostered this behavior, for providing another perspective that confirms that while the “establishment” may consider me crazy, I just might be the lunatic the world is waiting for.

  33. Rob Hamilton May 9, 2012 at 8:03 am - Reply

    A heartfelt thank you and from this long overweight father or 3 (40# less than 3 months ago thought!), husband to 1, and Emergency Physician learning to think differently about medicine, health, and life in general. Every day you provide inspiration for me, and every day the path to optimal becomes a little more clear. Bummer about the cruise but the way you roll with it is and your philosophical approach to it is what defines your character.



    • Jack May 9, 2012 at 8:58 am - Reply

      @Dr. Rob Thank you for this. You are an MD like me and it is pleasure to see a colleague and reader get my modus operundi. MD’s who are clinicians first, need to adapt more rapidly to help save patients who are “taking on water” and sinking. Those who do not practice what they preach from their own lives to their patients to me are quite dangerous. We need to help people now and you as an ER doc know this better than me too…… see CW results daily in your ER.

  34. Seth Barrows May 9, 2012 at 8:06 am - Reply

    In this particular case, I’m not sure that all publicity is good publicity. Keep up with the good fight Dr. Kruse.

    • Jack May 9, 2012 at 8:42 am - Reply

      @Seth This incident happened to me because of the lunatic fringe in this community. The funny part is that those who allow for this behavior think they are really leaders or protectors of this movement when they are the one’s tearing it apart. They are destroying what Robb Wolf, Mark Sisson, and some of us are trying to create……..and if you support these people you are hurting what we are building.

  35. Marcel Stipetic May 9, 2012 at 8:28 am - Reply

    Great pictures, Jack. Don’t see those types of results everywhere.

    Tagging on to TheKid’s post regarding blue light; I’ve got these amber (orangy, really) colored lenses for my outdoor glasses. There’s a couple studies out in PubMed-land that seem to have used these types of colored lenses to re-establish circadian rhythms in the evening. What do you know about this–will they block out blue light?

    Thanks and rock on, man.

    • Jack May 9, 2012 at 8:43 am - Reply

      @Stipetic I have thos amber glasses on my recommended list because they are really cheap way to do it…….but I personally use the goggles.

  36. TheKid May 9, 2012 at 9:09 am - Reply

    @Jack – Since Glutathione isn’t absorbed well taken orally, and since I don’t have an injectable or suppository option, would a sublingual form be better? And is the reduced form always preferable.

    • Jack May 9, 2012 at 9:40 am - Reply

      @The Kid liposomal cream would be better…….Dave Asprey talks about this a lot. Not sure if you can source it were you are in the world though.

  37. Casey Plante May 9, 2012 at 9:23 am - Reply

    Jack – your comments on the difference between practicing medicine and science are very interesting – I don’t think many people see it this way ,but I agree with you. The small amount of history that I’ve read on medicine has shown me that 99% of the time we’ve got it wrong – too much theorizing combined with thinking that impresses on the world how we think it should work ends up in iatrogenic effects. The RCT is not a magic bullet for complex systems. Complex systems hide their clockwork, and the RCT will only show the parts that we know of, which is woefully small. Tinkering informed by flexible theories that give us positive results we may not fully understand is where medicine would seem to operate most efficiently. Medicine will always be gray, and should always be tinkered with, and should always default to the least amount of intervention possible (in respect to the complex system it is trying to interpret). The RCT can’t keep up with tinkering.

    • Jack May 9, 2012 at 9:44 am - Reply

      @Casey My view is different from many of the other paleo luminaries because I am a doctor who actually practices what I preach in my own life and in my surgical practice. That is really waht separates me from the rest of the community. That is really why some are angry and “jealous” right now. I dont get it because people are getting better. Is that not the point here? Or does there agenda and bias matter more? That is for you all to decide. Personally, I think this stunt will only backfire on them now. The emails and outpouring of comments have been overwhelming and I appreciate it. I think if you support the lunatic fringe at some site you subject yourself to their actions.

      Point two: Modern medicine is based on evidence based approach. the real problem is that assumptions and foundations of most of the RCT are flawed and biased. The same is true of most of the research coming out of major Ivory Towers. Because that is where is has been traditionally been produced it is given some credibility. I stopped doing that in 2007. I now use evolutionary biology to dictate my thoughts and actions because I think the evolutionary paradigm is out best RCT that has taken us from single cell organisms to humans in 4.5 billion yrs. I know of no better trial by fire in any RCT done in the last 150 years.

      This is why I am a skeptic of modern medicine and much of the research now……..and if your smart you should question it.

      The search for truth is the most difficult endeavor. It cannot start with any belief. Its basis has to be doubt

  38. Eileen May 9, 2012 at 9:43 am - Reply

    Jack I am sorry you had to face such an appalling situation. I have to say I’m shocked at the depths to which people will stoop. I hope you know what an inspiration you’ve been to people worldwide and that this incident has not discouraged you. Keep fighting the good fight.

    • Jack May 9, 2012 at 9:59 am - Reply

      @Eileen I will do just that and thank you for the kind words.

  39. Nonchalant May 9, 2012 at 10:34 am - Reply

    Casey, nice summary.

  40. Jerry Malone May 9, 2012 at 11:44 am - Reply

    Dr. K, This whole situation is outrageous. Please don’t let it stop you or slow you down. And thank you for all you are doing.

  41. Jim Mcintyre May 9, 2012 at 11:49 am - Reply

    @The Kid and Marcel: if you go to the link below, you can purchase sheets of amber acrylic (amber 2c04) that filter out the blue spectrum of natural light. The site allows you to order custom size cuts. I had mine cut to fit over my computer and television screens. This avoids the problem of light leaking in around the glasses. I also bought the lights from lowbluelight to improve my indoor environment.$product=o066je0lo9p~p&comeFrom=detail

  42. Rob Hamilton May 9, 2012 at 1:10 pm - Reply

    So right you are Jack. My daily work is nothing but treating an endless stream of people sadly afflicted with the ravages of chronic neolithic disease including HTN, DM (mostly 2 but 1 also), CAD, various infections, vascular insufficiency, mental illness, etc. Many of those folks try hard to do what their doctors recommend in good faith and most are on 4+ pharmaceuticals to treat all these things … of course we see lots who aren’t on anything and don’t have medical care either. We’re pretty good at dealing with trauma and acute illness, but I can tell all of your readers from my front row seat in the House of Medicine that we are haven’t been good about preventing the decay of the human organism and probably hasten it more than we care to think about.

    I can’t count in my career how many people I’ve seen with chronic recurrent idiopathic abdominal or pelvic pain. The best we in the ED have had to offer is a CT scan / Ultrasound ruling out anything surgical (and your Gallbladder article is making me rethink that), a few meds for symptoms, a shrug of the shoulders, and an admonishment to follow up with their primary care providers. Now I take a few extra minutes to talk to them about what they eat and what they shouldn’t eat. I’m starting to do that with more and more people with a wider range of conditions because this information is important to EVERYONE, no matter what their state of health.

    I’ve read enough of the references on paleo nutrition — and seen the fantastic changes it’s made in myself and my friends — to feel totally comfortable recommending this way of life. The scientific basis is there.

    CT is a much bigger leap for most than changing their diet. But I think we will get there. I have come to love it and spent a half an hour on the phone yesterday with a local guy who sells ice machines. Just about ready to pull the trigger on buying one for my home.

    It frustrates me that it took me so long to “find out” about the evolutionary / ancestral diet. The most frustrating thing of all is that my knowledge didn’t come from my medical school, the medical community, or any of the sources I have long been taught to rely on for information on how to help patients — which is why I’m in my line of work to start with. It came from looking around on the internet looking for a way to help myself with what I’ve always struggled with: obesity.

    The saddest things I see is so many who are trapped by the cage of their minds — they have been socialized into believing this is all there is and the best we can hope for is to live a life characterized by peaking in our youth and then chronic decay staving off the ravages of age by taking lipitor. Your stuff is a little unconventional sure, but frankly it makes sense, it is well thought out by a mind more brilliant than mine, and most importantly — it is being proven to work, one person at a time.

    I feel like the sun is rising!

    Good day!


  43. Kim Christman May 9, 2012 at 1:13 pm - Reply

    “As for me……. Close your eyes and think back to 1997′s Apple’s commercial………Think differently.

    Here’s to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They’re not fond of rules, and they have no respect for the status quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them. About the only thing you can’t do is ignore them, because they change things. They push the human race forward. And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

    So thank you, to the ‘science part’ of the Paleo community who fostered this behavior, for providing another perspective that confirms that while the “establishment” may consider me crazy, I just might be the lunatic the world is waiting for.”

    You always say the gold is in the comments. This comment was pure gold, Jack. Your “lunatic” theories are making the difference in my life. Paleo only got me so far. Living in circadian and seasonal rhythms while resetting my Leptin receptors and experiencing the winter I’ve been denying my body has been a GAME CHANGER in my life (and it’s only been 2 months). My latest endeavor: a 5k Mud Run with obstacles I completed last weekend WITH NO TRAINING. My first 5k ever, my first mud run ever, with no training (the only exercise I got before was 30 minutes of walking per day), and I killed it!!! I had an amazing time and am already signed up for another one. My strength and body comp have made tremendous strides without any lifting/training while on your protocols. You are definitely the “lunatic” I’ve been waiting for. Thank you!!!

  44. Mary Allen May 9, 2012 at 1:41 pm - Reply

    Dr Kruse – I want to say thank you for all you are sharing with us. You are making a difference. I’ve lost 24 pounds so far. Please keep helping us.

    I am sorry and rather appalled that this incident happened to you.

    May you and your family stay safe.

    Thank you.

    • Jack May 9, 2012 at 6:25 pm - Reply

      @Mary Allen I am not going to stop and I will uncover the owner of that Twitter account that I can promise.

  45. Nonchalant May 9, 2012 at 1:59 pm - Reply

    Dr Rob, it is so nice to hear about another doctor who understands!

  46. Michele Wilson May 9, 2012 at 4:20 pm - Reply

    Another great blog, thanks Jack.
    Rob, I work in an ER too and it is sad. Wellness is just so rare. I joined the Harvard Nurses Study and another Cancer study, honestly commenting about my diet and I don’t know what will come of it but I hope some sort of long term statistics about health. And Paleo.

    • Jack May 9, 2012 at 6:22 pm - Reply

      @Michele did they take down what you said about paleo? I’d be interested to know that.

  47. Darleen Michael-Baker May 9, 2012 at 4:25 pm - Reply

    @Jack … And like everything you’ve been doing that “Think Different” ad raised a bit of a ruckus because (gasp) it was grammatically incorrect.

    BTW loved the Billy Joel ref. Rock it, Doc!

    • Jack May 9, 2012 at 6:22 pm - Reply

      @Darleen the mission still exists.

  48. Zorica Vuletic May 9, 2012 at 6:45 pm - Reply

    Keep doing all the great work you do! You help so many people, and even though it’s not all of the sick people in the world, at least there are many being healed by your protocols.

    I hope you get over the incident and keep strong!!

    • Jack May 9, 2012 at 7:55 pm - Reply

      @Zorica I’m over it…….but the perpetrators plight has just begun

  49. Ruby Kittany May 9, 2012 at 7:38 pm - Reply

    wasted some time and read up a bit more on the background of all this. wow! juvenile doesn’t even begin to describe this spat. what an eye opener. here I was, complely oblivious to the fact that eating healthy real food and taking cold showers automatically made me a member of some cult-like movement and that by reading Jack’s blog, I may be upsetting some self-appointed “paleo bigwigs” who do not like Jack to be a face of this “movement”.” The Life of Brian” springs to mind. the best film of all time. shame common sense cannot be copyrighted and packaged as supplements. that would be a sure money spinner, maybe the mysterious paleo bigwigs should look into that. because money is what motivates them, I think. I guess if I say more power to you Jack, I will be branded a blind and brainless follower of a self-appointed saviour of the world. but what the heck, I’ll say it anyway!

  50. philippe chouinard May 9, 2012 at 8:20 pm - Reply

    Hi everyone!
    I’d like to echo Rob Hamilton comment.
    I too am a doctor ( anesthesiology ) and doing pain clinic regularly.
    Like Rob, I see so many people with chronic diseases and helpless in regards to their health.
    They follow their doctor’s treatment and usually never get better, only more pills.
    Cortisone and other immunosuppressants are legion and represent the lack of knowledge about inflamation and illness.
    I’ve been vegan for two years (McDougall and china study…) after my dad went for heart bypass and having not so good lipids. Coming from the SAD I did get some positive effects but stalled with some belly fat and not really better lipids… Then I read Wheat Belly and every pieces started to fall in their right place…. Read most of the paleo books and finally found dr Kruse.
    His science and storytelling are just addictive. So much head hurting in the last few weeks but oh my that I’ve learned a lot. Way more than what med school gave me.
    Back to pain clinic: now I have the speech with every patient that I see, trying to get them in the optimal health pathway. But I still need to learn more as this is a complete change of paradigm for me and my patients. I read as much as I can but wish that there will be some ressources for md who wish to make the change.
    Next step will be the CT for me and for my patient. Will a cryo chamber could do the trick?
    Dr Kruse, thank you, I’m excited now that I have something to offer to my patients instead of just pills and stupid CW.

    • Jack May 9, 2012 at 8:23 pm - Reply

      @phillippe this is why I do what I do…… makes all the Bullshit worth it.

  51. Michele Wilson May 9, 2012 at 8:20 pm - Reply

    @Jack, it is an ongoing research project, lasts for many years. They have already heard loudly from me about the need to separate out the “red meat” category so I am NOT lumped in with someone eating at Mc Donalds, lol. I mainly eat venison, that I hunted myself. Big difference, in my book.

    • Jack May 9, 2012 at 8:25 pm - Reply

      @Michele No doubt. Keep fighting the fight.

  52. dan han May 9, 2012 at 11:48 pm - Reply

    Hey Dr. K,
    If I’m cold adapted, is there any downside to say, doing 2 hrs in the cold tub? Would doing more cause apoptosis of adipocytes faster, or should I stick to your recommended 45min each day for CT?

    ps. great talk on TEDx

    • Jack May 9, 2012 at 11:49 pm - Reply

      @DanH no issues. Go for it and keep us in the loop on results.

  53. Marcel Stipetic May 10, 2012 at 4:04 am - Reply

    @Jim Mcintyre: Thank you.

  54. LeonRover May 10, 2012 at 8:12 am - Reply

    My favourite American poet, TS Eliot has the following apposite quote:

    ” The wounded surgeon plies the steel
    That questions the distempered part;
    Beneath the bleeding hands we feel
    The sharp compassion of the healer’s art
    Resolving the enigma of the fever chart.”

    I guess Homeland has been, and remains, Fever-Struck.

    Who can apply the necessary ‘sharp compassion’ ?

  55. Marijke de Jong May 10, 2012 at 8:34 am - Reply

    I am 5 feet 6 inches long and weigh 114 pounds, so I want to GAIN. While listening to your podcast I realized that it might be better to stop CT-ing now that it is spring. Would that help? Or should I do something else?

    Thank you so much for all you are doing.

    • Jack May 10, 2012 at 10:41 am - Reply

      @Marijke Use BCAA and raw dairy and CT and your body comp will increase…..increased muscle weight more than fat!

  56. Jason Blanchard May 10, 2012 at 8:38 am - Reply

    Thanks for the response Jack. Ive been researching nutrition and biology for years now and your blog is a breath of fresh air, i very much like your take on things and youve influenced a few of my blog posts, it started off very much about health but now with my travelling ive been putting up alot about the human spirit and how to change and aim for something more then just mediocrity in life. My blog is , i very much believe that the keys to our future lie not only in our primal ancestry but also in the path we choose to follow in this modern day. I heard about what happened on your cruise, utterly ridiculous and just another reason to keep doing what youre doing because if people feel the need to do that to you, youre going in the right direction! thanks for all your hard work!

    • Jack May 10, 2012 at 10:45 am - Reply

      @Jason thanks for the link and I will read your blog and take. I always like to see new starfish come here. Thank you for the kind words. I am very concerned about the bioterrorism and cyberstalking considering what is all over the Fox news stations today. I will be on the TV today and tomorrow national talking about the enforcement issues that we must have our officials impose for our collective safety. Cyber stalking and stealing an identity to falsify a terror threat is something we cant tolerate as a country.

  57. Caroline Cooper May 10, 2012 at 9:23 am - Reply

    Hi Dr Kruse,

    You said: “…in fact, money will be lost by the current healthcare system, food agricultural complex, and advertisers…maybe I am looking at this from too an obtuse view…but doubt it. Sickness is a big thriving business…”

    Yes, indeed your methods are world changing. If a large enough number of people start eating whole foods from pastured animals and organic sources, the world will change. If people start eating seasonally and mostly from local sources, the world will change. If people turn off the power in their houses and experience the night again, the world will change. If people learn to like the cold and benefit from its health giving properties, the world will change. If the sick become well again, the world will change.

    There are many great forces working in our world. It is sad for me to admit this but there are many forces that would want to stop this kind of change. Your view is not obtuse but the big picture.

    Thank you for sharing your work. I am glad you are okay. What you went through would have scared the living daylights out of me.

  58. Marijke de Jong May 10, 2012 at 11:16 am - Reply

    Thank you Jack!

    • Jack May 10, 2012 at 11:28 am - Reply

      @James Thanks for this message!

      Dr. Kruse,
      I’m Jim Brown, an old patient of yours and would like to personally thank you for “saving my life”. In spring of 2010 I ruptured a disc and was referred to you by one of your previous patients. When I first met with you I just had the impression that you were just going to fix my problem and send me on my way. Man was I ever so wrong. I was overweight and not particularly healthy for the most part. The things you did for me back then, I know have forever changed my life and perhaps a longer lease on life. You did bloodwork on me and based on those results addressed lifestyle issues that would help me live a quality life. You put me on a diet using your Leptin Rx as I was nearing the 300 lb mark around 2010 and after my surgery that july I stuck with that diet and exercise sheet that you gave me. I never in my life have been able to stick with a diet. But this to me wasn’t just another “weight loss” diet. I never approached it that way and I think that is why I was having success. I had it in mind that this was a “lifestyle” or ” do or die” diet. Lol. Before i knew it, I had dropped 60 lbs by Christmas putting me around the 220lb mark, and by the following july I was down to 170. After the first 6 months it got easier for me to know what my body needed to lose weight and be. Im now around 190 lb. range and that’s where I want to be. For me it was all about training my stomach and brain to work together again. I never “eat till I’m full” anymore. Anyway, I just wanted to share my story and say “thanks”.

  59. JanSz May 10, 2012 at 2:53 pm - Reply

    Sorry to see you on my tv, channel 26, FOX-News, May 10/2012
    Hopefully it will be for the better.

    No wonder, you are stepping on big money making machine.
    God forbid we all get healthy and only need surgeons to mend bones broken during hunting.
    No more cancers, strokes, high cholesterol, diabetes.
    Hello waist size <34"

    God bless you.


    • Jack May 10, 2012 at 5:09 pm - Reply

      @JanSz I would love to blame it on big food or agra…….this attack was from within and it was fostered and supported by many. Thanks for the kind words and you know this will not stop the mission. It is just a speed bump on the road to change and optimal living.

  60. Vincent McConeghy May 10, 2012 at 3:11 pm - Reply

    Dr. K: I think you will look back on this incident, and please excuse the hack expression, as a Tipping Point in your work. As a writer of sorts, I was actually envious of the sheer comic absurdity of the situation.

    Now can you please address the characterization that CT is a hormetic stressor and nothing more.

    • Jack May 10, 2012 at 5:13 pm - Reply

      @Vincent I have heard this from some prominent members of our community…….in a future CT blog you will see how my protocol worked for extreme adrenal fatigue…….in a short 2.5 months. Dramatic is the word she used. She went from near suicide to a completely different woman with a total new outlook on life. Her story began with me in November of 2011 and continues today in a custom CT protocol and she is doing beautifully

  61. Susan Kline May 10, 2012 at 3:20 pm - Reply

    Jack, glad that you weathered this so well. I just saw your videos.

    In retrospect, it was naive of us to not expect something like this, or worse. The surprise to me is that it was in the Paleo community instead of from the medical industry. So much money is now passing hands which could trickle to a halt.

    So, how to be bold without giving some of these people an easy hit? You will probably use your unique originality to find an unexpected way around this dilemma, now that it has been brought to your attention in such a vivid way.

    By the way, I bought both of the books you reviewed recently. Breakthroughs right and left. I now put some sweet potato in my omelet. I tossed out numerous bad habits while laughing over how Dean Dwyer chooses to say things. And the scale has finally come unstuck. I’ve been out in the garden every morning – temps in the mid-forties – wearing a short-sleeved shirt.

    My sister, soaking in her cold tub, is stronger than she has been in years.

    We do appreciate what you just went through, and hope you stay safe while continuing to move full speed ahead.

    • Jack May 10, 2012 at 5:14 pm - Reply

      @Susan Dean’s book is a work of genius and if you ever get to hear him speak you love him more. He was one of my top ten things from Paleo fx. I hope you decide to buy the video’s when they come out tomorrow. We just made a sweet potato lasagna this week for the summer e cook book

  62. Chris M. May 10, 2012 at 4:35 pm - Reply

    omg! Dr Kruse I am so sorry to hear that happened! I was late to the party, as my nephew had a seizure the other night (1st time) and I was just getting around to seeing what you may be posting from the cruise ship

    and I did see your tweet the other night about “does anyone know Lance” but I hadn’t seen any of the others, and so just assumed you were looking for someone the ship — what a nightmare for you!

    however, I too think this goes deeper than just some “paleo disagreement” As Ruby said “when you don’t know what it’s about, then it’s about money” and what Jan said about “stepping on the money machine” —

    so I think this could go deeper, as many of these diseases are mega-million dollar industries in and unto themselves and as such, as a general rule, few involved really have the best interest of the patient in mind, just the bottom line.

    So glad to hear you’re in it for the long haul!


    • Jack May 10, 2012 at 5:18 pm - Reply

      @Chris thanks for the kind words…….I saw some LC cruisers tweets and emails the last two days and it seems Jimmy has made it all work for them……I was concerned because Dr. Rosedale was a last minute cancelation so Jimmy was real short handed on this but rebounded like a true champ.

  63. Kathy H May 10, 2012 at 7:42 pm - Reply

    Yikes! Just saw the news clip on Fox News about the cruise. I had heard about the low-carb cruise only a few weeks ago and look forward to attending one in the future. Have just now added this site to my list of low-carb sites to view. Too bad it had to take this ridiculous incident to allow me to discover this site. You handled this much better than I would have. I am hopeful that law enforcement will do their job and this will be solved in a timely manner. In the meantime, what a shame that folks can’t keep an open mind or at least mind their own business!

  64. Eric Hanner May 10, 2012 at 11:15 pm - Reply

    Jack, I have been watching this situation unfold now for a few days and chose to hold my comments to see where it was going. I sense that you are deeply hurt by the accusations and negative portrayal. I wondered how you would be able to hold together such a large group of readers in all the blogs and forums you were commenting on. I’ve known a few truly great men in the past Jack. One thing they share is they expect people to understand logic and common sense when it is presented to them clearly. The concepts you are advancing require an open mind to understand. One doesn’t need to be a scientist or a Phd, you just need to be able to open your mind to the possibility that everything you knew last week is wrong. We need to look at all of the dietary advice, the whole business of treating the symptoms instead of looking at the cause, and finally the concept of looking at food and the effect the chemicals it is made of, has on the individual components of each and every cell in our body. I can’t say how it happened but the human population has been lulled into allowing our health to be controlled by people with no interest in finding the cause of disease. Very few have any interest in or ability to diagnose the root cause of our neolithic diseases.

    So, I’m not surprised you are being attacked. Some are threatened by your radical ideas. This must be ignored. I say to you Dr. Jack, “Soldier On”. Focus on what you know to be true. Many will choose to doubt at their own peril. Those that can understand your frustratingly simple methods will save the species. Those of us who are participating in your grand experiment are reaping the benefits of enlightened wisdom.

    Thank you my friend. You have saved my life and that of my wife who is following along with me.

    • Jack May 11, 2012 at 5:59 am - Reply

      @ Eric……..thanks for saying and sharing this.

  65. Nonchalant May 11, 2012 at 7:21 am - Reply

    Well said, Eric!

  66. Marijke de Jong May 11, 2012 at 7:27 am - Reply

    Jack, you are changing the present paradigm (see Thomas Kuhn) and a lot of people in different places feel threatened. That is why these things happen. It means you are really onto something big. The way you are doing this, surrounding yourself with countless followers, letting all the world know what you found, will insure that this knowledge is not lost in the struggle with CW that will undoubtedly come.

    Keep courage, we are with you.

    • Jack May 11, 2012 at 10:03 am - Reply

      @Marijke Thanks. I dont want to be anyone’s guru…….I just want to hold the flashlight on the road to optimal. A faction of the Paleo community is ruining things for the millions yet to realize they can be fixed easily. A true leader stands up and says what is most difficult when it is least popular to say. The beliefs of a leader is found in their actions and not in the words they leave for the fringe.

  67. Chris M. May 11, 2012 at 7:32 am - Reply

    “the human population has been lulled into allowing our health to be controlled by people with no interest in finding the cause of disease.”

    hear, hear, Eric!

    merely “treating” a disease will turn it into specialty industry, however, curing it…. kills the money tree.


    • Jack May 11, 2012 at 10:08 am - Reply

      @Chris Before my national Fox spot both anchors took my information down because they were floored that I had answer for obesity that espoused no drugs, fancy operations or lots of money. And the lunatics that did this too me…….think I am nuts? How crazy is that? It is the ultimate oxymoron. I will no longer focus on them at all……….I will focus on the people who want help to change to get better. They are my targets of change where I think most Starfish will be found. I feel like an American Indian must have when he saw a group of white men for the first time.

  68. Jennifer Johnson May 11, 2012 at 8:12 am - Reply

    Great blog, Dr K. It’s sad that most people going to see their doctors have no idea that he/she is basing your treatment on is based on what has been given them by people who do not take the hippocratic oath. It takes kahunas to do what you do and for that I am truly grateful and humbled. Thank you.

    I do have a question. In the awesome podcast, you said that people with eye diseases age faster. My mom has pterygium (also known as Surfer’s Eye) and her doctor has specifically told her to wear sunglasses at all times. She also has recently complained to me that she is looking so old and she wants to go for some crazy chemical peel or something. She did try face dunks once, but quickly gave up. But maybe if she hears your podcast she will rethink.
    What would you suggest for someone who can’t use light to open the pathway??
    thank you thank you thank you

    • Jack May 11, 2012 at 10:12 am - Reply

      @Jennifer Eye disease does age us faster and it is a part of my theory that modern medicine does not even yet consider of perceive. I think CT over the globes makes a ton of sense but I also think a custom diet and supplement list for those conditions should be considered. I have several of my Neurosurgery patients who use it. Maybe a future blog post?

      • Joh June 8, 2017 at 3:08 am - Reply

        Do you have any further information on a custom diet and supplements for pterygium?

        • Jack Kruse June 8, 2017 at 11:59 am - Reply

          Read John Ott’s book health and light. Sunlight is the best supplement.

  69. Eric Hanner May 11, 2012 at 8:24 am - Reply

    The lesson to be learned by looking at how nature has adapted to our antibiotics over the last decades is that the natural forces of nature are capable of finding workarounds to our neolithic drugs. MRSA is a good example. Dr. Kruse has opened our eyes to working within the ancient pathways so we can avoid the need for drug intervention, which is outside the hard wired pathways. This is an incredible gift of wisdom in my opinion.

    I personally don’t think there is much point in making a big deal about the lunatic fringe that attacked Jack. The Internet blogs are full of loose cannons. We have federal prisons waiting for those who cross the line.

    For those who are using their minds to proceed towards optimal, the lunatic is merely a distraction. The Earth is NOT flat. Anyone who can look at the current condition of auto immune diseases in the world and not be appalled at “Modern Medicine”, isn’t going to be receptive to a simple bio-hack that is so obvious it is embarrassing to CW.

    I do hope we can get on to a serious discussion about “Factor-X” without much delay. Something this important should not be used as a carrot.

    • Jack May 11, 2012 at 10:14 am - Reply

      @Eric May 19th will be the Factor X Webinar……those who sign up will hear it…..and get a special blog post that shows how a modern disease…….really is no disease at all when you consider the Factor X angle.

  70. Eric Hanner May 11, 2012 at 10:42 am - Reply

    Jack, I tried to sign up for the webinar but was refused access. I’m registered as a forum member.??

  71. Hari Seldon May 11, 2012 at 10:44 am - Reply

    Hi Jack,

    Finally was able to watch your TED video. Great stuff. I shared it with some friends that remain skeptical. Mostly they critiqued the lack of data in the presentation (i.e. pictures, video, etc.). They thought it contained too much narrative and not enough visual evidence.

    Since I doubt they’ll take the time to read the entire CT series, do you have plans to share more details from your n-1?

    • Jack May 11, 2012 at 10:51 am - Reply

      @Hari Data? in an 18 minute TED talk? TED is about sharing ideas not data. Tell them to come read CT 4 and CT 6 and watch the patient videos and story’s on CT 9, 10, 11, and 12.

  72. N-Doro May 11, 2012 at 10:52 am - Reply

    @Eric This is what I got as a registered Karnivore member: We are at capacity for the webinar next saturday. However, as a Karnivore,
    you’ll still be able to watch the recording on the same day. It’ll be
    available about an hour after the live event. Thanks!

    Kind Regards,

    Jack’s Support Team

  73. TheKid May 11, 2012 at 10:53 am - Reply

    @Jack – I wanted to know if all yellow/ amber lights are the same, or of LowBlueLights has applied something special to their bulbs. I ask because I currently can’t get their products here. However, I have found a 13W yellow fluorescent bulb made by Ace hardware. Same thing or not?

    Also, I have noticed that some of these fluorescent bulbs have mercury in them. Are they safe as long as they’re not broken? Thanks.

    • Jack May 11, 2012 at 1:14 pm - Reply

      @The kid they are all different unfortunately.

  74. indigogirl May 11, 2012 at 1:04 pm - Reply

    So sorry for all the craziness you have been through in the last week.
    I said this on the Forum and I would like to say it here too…I do not understand why more respected people in the Paleo community have not publicly supported you. I know some have.
    The cyber bullying and it’s ensuing sniping on some Paleo blogs is truly scary and dangerous.
    I understand your theories might be controversial to some people…so don’t practice them! Why are you being personally attacked?
    Thank you for all you do and for going out on a limb for all of us.

    • Jack May 11, 2012 at 1:16 pm - Reply

      @Indigo the reason is contained in the CT 12 blog post…….I suggest you re read it. I was not surprised in the least.

  75. Julie McCarthy May 11, 2012 at 6:48 pm - Reply

    I am registered and signed in but it tells me i do not have access to the webinar area because I am not a registered. I want to sign up to see it!!

    • Jack May 11, 2012 at 6:52 pm - Reply

      @Julie go to the forum and look for the marketing monkeys and they will help you.

  76. Eric Hanner May 11, 2012 at 6:59 pm - Reply

    Please tell me this discussion of X Factor isn’t being disclosed behind a paywall. For those of us who have stood by you and followed your blog, it will not be a pleasant taste on my sour taste buds.

    • Jack May 11, 2012 at 7:08 pm - Reply

      @Eric Webinars are first for members and then I open it up to the general public. The general public bought all the tickets and we are at capacity. The complete story of Factor X will come out in my book later this year. 99% of the Website is free. 1% is not. Context my friend.

  77. Mary Allen May 11, 2012 at 9:41 pm - Reply

    Jack, you wrote above: The reason for this is plastic surgery removed the number of adipocytes in their body, which improved signaling between the fat mass and the hypothalamus.

    And in the TEDx speech you said that the surgery you had on Jan 9 removed 2 pounds of fat from your body.

    How did that affect losing the weight you gained for the surgery? Did it make it easier or quicker to lose the weight? Did it improve your leptin sensitivity?

    Were you also testing those results from the Amgen study along with the CT pain and infection effects?

    • Jack May 11, 2012 at 9:53 pm - Reply

      @Mary Allen to be clear……i did the TEDx experiment not for proof of paleo at all, but to disprove the Ancient Pathway exists……When I could not disprove it, and it really is in modern humans to then I want to see if I could use to my advantage as a neurosurgeon. I realized immediately it would help my surgical patients. If you look at waht I did 3 weeks later to Mr Lonnie Daniels as an 80 yr old fragile diabetic, well you draw your conclusions. I am still in shock over his result. I did not expect it to be that dramatic.

      Moreover, I did it to help neurosurgery patients with pain and chronic pain…….one of the side effects of my research was to find out the Ancient Pathway conferred pain relief in complete cold environments. I realized that if I could train the area of surgery with CT that maybe I could have a dramatic affect on their surgical problem. Simultaneous to this a friend of mine on FB named Tammy Gordon…… me thinking about this in 2008 on a spine forum……..and after Terry Wahl’s TEDx I knew I had to step up my game to do the first evolutionary directed experiment on a human, so I choose me to try it on………and it worked.

      I then took what I learned to help people that I thought previously I could not…….and the video’s are up for you to look at. CT 9, 10 and 11 have video’s………CT 12 is my story and the first two people who I ever did this on…….my son and nephew. And you can see their results…….it appears results are not what ‘some in the community’ want…….they want a to swing on the belief that their dogma is correct and wait for a RCT to prove me right or wrong. I just want to help and cure folks now. So i posted it for the world to try out. If that is nuts…….then I am nuts.

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  79. Riversedge May 11, 2012 at 10:42 pm - Reply

    I can’t Imagine the cost my personal Dr. or any other consultant would have charged for each question I asked Jack. Plus all the free info here. I would be out 1000’s so go gargle and get the taste out.

    • Jack May 12, 2012 at 12:13 am - Reply

      @Riveredge…….I will never make everyone happy and I cant so I dont worry about it. I just keep moving. But this I promise, once you understand the Factor X in it evolutionary context and I show you using diseases how it matters……….you will be forever changed in your perspective of sickness and health………that I promise.

  80. TheKid May 12, 2012 at 2:59 am - Reply

    @Jack – I was listening to an interview with a large animal vet who was talking about obesity being essentially a disease of mineral deficiency. He used the conventional treatment of cattle as an example, whereby they are able to tweak the metabolisms of cattle by dialing up and down the mineral content of the feed.

    He also talked about how cattle have to prepped for winter. He said they’d freeze to death if they weren’t able to tap and utilize their fat stores for energy. So prior to winter, they tweak the mineral supplementation in the feed to turn on the fat buring capabilities.

    Is the same possible for humans? Instead of or in addition to Leptin Rx + CT, could we supplement certain minerals to tip our metabolisms to be fat buring?

    I know you talk about diabetes starting with a Mg deficiency, but I do not remember you really going down the path of saying explicitly “Just supplement these minerals and the problem is fixed.”

    Could such a supplementation approach be another answer to the metabolic problems that drive modern disease states? Thanks.

    • Jack May 12, 2012 at 8:18 am - Reply

      @The Kid I have not gotten into the process……..but its coming. I think May 19th Webinar will be interesting to you based on this question and I think the blog that I already have written for the Webinar people to read right after the hear the Factor X talk will really get you talking and thinking about how evolution does and did what it does based upon my theories…….. anew rabbit hole will open fo ryou to jump down and see a new reality……..that you might have never thought about before.

  81. Jerry Malone May 12, 2012 at 8:38 am - Reply

    @TheKid please give us some links about animals and minerals!@Jack, what level of membership do I need to see the CT webinar?

    • Jack May 12, 2012 at 8:41 am - Reply

      @Jerry I am not even sure. Go to the forum and ask the Marketing Monkeys and see what they say.

  82. TheKid May 12, 2012 at 8:59 am - Reply

    @Jerry – I don’t have links. It was just something I happened upon listening to an interview. The guy’s name is Dr. Joel Wallach, and if you Google him, you’ll see a bunch of stuff.

    • Jack May 12, 2012 at 9:16 am - Reply

      Maybe Wally Courie comes here for the Translation…….He said it was good.

      Edit thanks to the fast moving Wally:

      Wally Courie says tip of the hat to Google translate: “In his blog posts will Kruse at first glance like a typical quack about with manic and grandiose features. ‘Eminent paleo icons’ as Emily Deans psychiatrist and radiologist Kurt Harris have him whatsoever between the lines declared mentally disturbed. But if you read his posts properly, you still find a lot of reasonably coherent and above all intriguing insights. In interviews the man also sounds perfectly normal. He says something important to have discovered and instead of waiting until 50 years of research has confirmed his discovery, he brings out the simple information so that everyone can benefit. Moreover, he claims, the majority of his advice has been extensively tested by NASA among others. Followers hallelujah report results, such as normalization of abnormal blood sugars.”

      If you all have not read this man’s blog you should because it is excellent.

  83. Susan Kline May 12, 2012 at 10:15 am - Reply

    @Jack — Fun what Google does to (I assume …) Dutch.

    About normalization of abnormal blood sugars, since I started having some sweet potato with breakfast four days ago, my morning BG has dropped between 10 and 15 points. It still was at 101 this morning, so I still have a long way to go, but this seems a step in the right direction. The fact in the sweet potato book that Japanese feed sweet potatoes to diabetic patients caught my attention.

    At this point, I don’t think I’d like to be either Deans or Harris … results trump blither, one might say.

    • Jack May 12, 2012 at 10:29 am - Reply

      @Susan I am glad you trying this now at this time of the year……Keep me in the loop of how you do because I am quite interested.

  84. Susan Kline May 12, 2012 at 10:48 am - Reply

    @Jack, it’s early days yet on the sweet potato rampage, but I already notice that a modest serving seems to go a long way. I think I’ll work on quantity, and see how much is the right amount of sweet potato to feel replete but not stuffed. I haven’t been having all that much, but it seems already like it is a little more than enough.

    Yes, May seems like the right time to have some carbs, bright orange carbs. Small amounts of white rice ala Jaminet didn’t work for me — went straight to my waist.

    • Jack May 12, 2012 at 11:06 am - Reply

      @Susan I just made a ridiculous summer recipe for the cook book because of Ashley Tudor’s inspiration……I made a ‘yamsagna’ and man was it rocking good. This will be a great July recipe for me.

  85. Jerry Malone May 12, 2012 at 12:46 pm - Reply

    @Jack you will love this: I just got back from a fly fishing retreat. Took my daily CT soak right in the river. The water was cold and very fast. Every morning I got in for 20 minutes and sat in front of a large boulder, up to my neck. It was exhilarating, and led to many questions about CT from the participants. Can’t wait to do it again.

    • Jack May 12, 2012 at 12:52 pm - Reply

      @Jerry Awesome I’d love to see a picture of that!!!

  86. Zorica Vuletic May 12, 2012 at 1:27 pm - Reply

    I am going to buy your book when it comes out—I can’t wait until it comes out. 🙂 In the meantime, I get continued pleasure from this blog. I’ve truly learned a lot.

    Currently right now I am also slowly increasing carbs as it turns into summer. I enjoy fruits a lot and still keep the starchy veg a bit lower (and just eat them 1-2x a week). The fruit is not excessive, like maybe 1 serving a day or every other day. I still do face dunks, and cold showers. Sometimes I use ice packs (depending on personal need). I have not done a bath dunk in a little while, but I think I’m OK. I think in June, or July, I will add more starch, like 3-5x a week. I get the feeling that even with summer and increase in carbs, it still doesn’t mean an amount that rivals CW. (And not wheat products anyway). I still feel better with not too much.

    Although I am constantly seeing results, I think slowly but surely my hormones get sorted out more and more favourably with the passing months. I like this trend, and I want it to become a stable thing for years and years to come!

    • Jack May 12, 2012 at 2:32 pm - Reply

      @Zorica I am glad to see your results coming to fruition. I have slowly added carbs back in now myself. But I have dramatically backed down my working out. I am doing something new now to test another theory I have about barometric pressure.

  87. Zorica Vuletic May 12, 2012 at 3:43 pm - Reply

    Looking forward to hearing the results of your new experiment!

  88. Dali Dula May 12, 2012 at 6:35 pm - Reply

    I cooked up a beef stew with some sweet potato and had some for breakfast yesterday. It gave me the highest post prandial BG I’ve seen in months. Yikes. Maybe too early in the season for that. Really good stew though.

    • Jack May 12, 2012 at 7:33 pm - Reply

      @Dali how high did you go?

  89. Jerry Malone May 12, 2012 at 6:56 pm - Reply

    @Jack You’ve kept us guessing about Factor X for weeks, and now you’re experimenting with pressure! Can’t wait to hear your new theory, since I just finished building my own personal hyperbaric chamber. Can you give us a hint about your theory???

    • Jack May 12, 2012 at 7:33 pm - Reply

      @Jerry too early to say…… data yet

  90. TheKid May 13, 2012 at 4:24 am - Reply

    @Jack – Do you also prefer liposomal delivery for supplements other than glutathione? Or is conventional pill/capsule delivery sufficient? I ask, because I have seen liposomal forms of Vitamin C online as well as a Vitamin D3/K2 mix. Thanks.

    • Jack May 13, 2012 at 8:16 am - Reply

      @TheKid on somethings yes…..pregnenolone and progesterone are excellent this way but estrogen and testosterone do not need it. There is no one answer for all the hormones unfortunately.

  91. Fay Hanrahan Russell May 13, 2012 at 4:47 am - Reply

    Spotted an article in New Scientist 11 May 2012 Thermostat protein could burn off fat. Evidently mice kept at 5C by Andrew Whittle at University of Cambridge, produce 140 times more bone morphogenetic protein 8B(bmp8B)the thermostat protein which controls brown fat. They think it may be possible to produce drugs based on bmp8B which will induce weight loss.

    • Jack May 13, 2012 at 8:13 am - Reply

      @Fay I actually linked that to the CT 12 blog post too. It backs up what this blog has been saying for the last yr. It makes me happy to see the science is beginning to fill in the theories I have laid out here in my blog.

  92. Dali Dula May 13, 2012 at 7:17 am - Reply

    Jack, the sweet potato put me at 170. My post prandials rarely go over 140 and are typically below 130. I am one year no diabetes meds and one month no Synthroid. So I am med free, but remain vigilant about diet. I see numbers below 100 throughout the day. Waking FBG has been averaging 115.

    • Jack May 13, 2012 at 8:15 am - Reply

      @Dali that is a nice spike and clearly is concerning. I would tell you that means your liver and gut is still not optimal so if you tighten the diet and expose yourself to more cold……than I think you will see improvement of the FBG with time. It wont happen over night but it will happen. Keep us informed.

  93. Jerry Malone May 13, 2012 at 8:58 am - Reply

    @Dali I also had high waking FBG, similar to yours. I tried all kinds of things, but nothing really worked until I tried 1) taking lots of Mg (Ionic Fizz) throughout the day, 2) sleeping in pitch black, 3) going to bed at 9:00 pm, and 4) being VERY strict about avoiding all gluten. That combination did it for me. Don’t know if it will work for you, but it’s worth a try. Watch the gluten! Even a little bit in some processed lunch meat, for example, will give me a reading over 100 the next morning. For what it’s worth…

    • Jack May 13, 2012 at 9:09 am - Reply

      @Jerry process meat can disorder Fatty Acid synthetase in gut to cause this issue.

  94. Andre van Staveren May 13, 2012 at 9:38 am - Reply

    Dr Kruse,

    Karl Popper, the famous science philosopher, said that new knowlegde finds acceptance in 3 steps:

    1) The establishment totally ignores it
    2) They fight you vigorously (not the message but the messenger)
    3) The new knowledge is generally accepted.

    What happened to you tells me you are in step 2 now. That is really good news indeed. You are making progress.

    Keep the faith!

    • Jack May 13, 2012 at 10:41 am - Reply

      @Andre Normally I’d be inclined to agree if this was done by PETA, CONAGRA, or MONSANTO……..instead it was done from our own community. Tell me what does that say?

      That is the part of this that totally floors me.

  95. Jerry Malone May 13, 2012 at 9:41 am - Reply

    @Jack thanks very much, I’ll search your blogs for FA synthetase.
    @Dali I forgot to mention, if your FBG creeps up like that from bad eating, jump in the cold tub. I’ve been taking BG readings before and after CT sessions. My BG always drops, usually by about 15 points. Once when it was over 100, I got it down to 71 by taking a 20 minute soak in the morning (take several readings before and after so you can average out the noise in the measurement process). It seems to say low for several hours after that.

  96. Dali Dula May 13, 2012 at 12:37 pm - Reply

    I realized my beef stew had some other things in it. I improvise when I cook so I added some miso and some sherry. I have not had any problems with miso in the past. Maybe the sherry has too much sugar Will try sweet potato solo and see how that goes. Jerry I am on board with all the things you mentioned and I hit the cold everyday. Carry on we get better everyday. Thanks Jack

  97. LeonRover May 13, 2012 at 1:55 pm - Reply

    “..instead it was done from our own community. Tell me what does that say?”

    Robert Burns might say:

    O wad some Power the giftie gie us
    To see oursels as ithers see us!

  98. JanSz May 13, 2012 at 2:48 pm - Reply

    @TheKid – Do you also prefer liposomal delivery

    @Jack Says:
    @TheKid on somethings yes…..pregnenolone and progesterone are excellent this way but estrogen and testosterone do not need it.
    I am using Micronized Lipid Matrix pregnenolone by Nutricology, works well.
    The other oral or transdermal pregnenolones have not worked at all.

    Now I am using 300mg/day
    At the start of therapy 900mg/day

    Who is making liposomal pregnenolone?
    Hopefully as pills.
    Hopefully tested by someone not financially connected.

    I have seen claims that bio-identical progesterone is bio-identical to a point.
    It works as it should
    it does not down-metabolize.
    Therefore it can easily be overdosed.

    Another reason why my personal preference is to use pregnenolone, and allow body to make progesterone on as need basis.
    Progesterone level can be adjusted by titrating pregnenolone.

  99. Jerry Malone May 13, 2012 at 3:26 pm - Reply

    @Dali ok, thanks. Just curious, how does miso affect your BG? (I am a recovering macrobiotic.)

  100. Dali Dula May 13, 2012 at 9:07 pm - Reply

    @ Jerry, I have previously not identified any effect on BG from miso. I make a miso/kelp/shitake soup that I eat with my very light lunch and have noticed no BG effect. Miso and natto are the only soy I use as the fermentation process is supposed to reduce or eliminate the negative effects. I also use them both sparingly. I have also noticed the power of CT to lower BG and use it stategically. I often time my CT to two hour post prandial and I have nice BG for the day. I just can’t say thanks Jack enough. (Nobel Prize) not joking.

  101. Jerry Malone May 13, 2012 at 9:55 pm - Reply

    @Dali Thanks for this info. I have considered adding miso and/or natto to my diet, but don’t think it’s wise at this point, because I don’t want any phytoestrogen at all. I’m sure the fermentation gets rid of most of it, but I’m sure some remains, and I want maximal detox. CT is amazing. Today, my BG was in the 80s until my rock climbing session, after which it shot up to the high 90s. (Wish I knew why it does that. It also does that when I’m sitting at my desk at work after a long commute, especially on hot days.) I jumped in my cold tub (52 deg. for 20 minutes) and it dropped down to 50. That is amazing. Wish I had a cold tub at work. Yes, Jack deserves recognition for this. I’m so grateful I came across this website.

  102. dan han May 13, 2012 at 11:47 pm - Reply

    Dr. Kruse, you mentioned that CT may cause alot of detox to occur esp from fat cells. Would you expect initially even a rise in cytokines or estrogen for someone starting out CT in their first month or two? in other words, feeling worse/higher estrogen etc (I feel pretty good though) before feeling better?

    Thanks doc and I’m totally with you now that cold is the link that low carbers seem to be missing despite generally good results. KEEP PIONEERING!

    • Jack May 14, 2012 at 7:00 am - Reply

      @Dan Han it is possible…..but I generally do not measure cytokine storms post CT.

  103. TheKid May 14, 2012 at 12:44 am - Reply

    @JanSz – I have really only just begun supplementing. So I’m not able to compare the difference between tablet/capsule forms and liposomal forms. Sorry.

  104. TheKid May 14, 2012 at 2:51 am - Reply

    @Jack – I have a question about nocturnal urine production. I am finding it difficult to comfortably make through a full 8 hours of sleep due to the need to urinate. The urge usually seems to hit around hour 6. I read on PubMed that “Vasopressin-to-prostaglandin E2 excretion ratio appears to be of importance for regulation of urine production.”

    I don’t know exactly what that means. I do know that poor sleep is going to cause lots of problems. So are you aware of what may be amiss in my system and how to attack whatever the underlying causes of urine production may be? Thanks.

    • Jack May 14, 2012 at 7:02 am - Reply

      @the Kid my bet is your particular issue is a low ADH issue in the hypothalamus. Children get this too with enuresis. You can use intranasal DDAVP to fix it……but the side effect for you may not be worht the risk. It causes platlets adhesion and possible clotting.

  105. Cody Fyler May 14, 2012 at 8:13 am - Reply

    @theKid, I have the same issue. I wake up at around 3 AM most mornings to urinate. It’s very annoying. The worst thing is that I feel better usually at this time of morning, than when I do at 6:30 when the alarm goes off. If you find a solution, please share.

  106. Joan Norvold May 14, 2012 at 9:59 am - Reply

    Thankful to have found you, Dr. Kruse! My CW story goes back 40 yrs to when you “can not gain more than 25 pounds while pregnant” to the point my doctor put me on a diet pill when I was gaining too fast. A diet pill while pregnant! You’re preaching to the choir about CW and I’m soaking up every word I can read on your work, Mark Sisson, Robb Wolf. At 63, I might have the best years ahead of me, and I’m so happy about that. I’m anxious for more wisdom re: heart disease because I have some. Thanks again!

    • Jack May 14, 2012 at 11:13 am - Reply

      @joan If you change your lifestyle you can do some amazing things for your heart. Eating a ketogenic diet is a great place to start.

  107. TheKid May 14, 2012 at 10:28 am - Reply

    @Cody Fyler – I don’t have a solution yet. What I’ve been trying is not drinking so much in the evening. What I am hoping is that as I get my circadian rhythms back in line through my continued lifestyle changes, and as dietary changes begin to bring me back into hormonal balance, maybe this will improve. I’ll let you know.

  108. Meghan Miller May 14, 2012 at 10:37 am - Reply

    Just happened to see this and thought you might be interested:

    • Jack May 14, 2012 at 11:20 am - Reply

      @Meghan I am quite aware of how the Chinese have used cold for over 5000 years. It appears many others in the community seem not to realize it. What I am attempting to do is tell you why it works by giving people a total 30,000 foot view of how all the pieces fit together. Like the diet……..the diet is not a be all end all as some believe. There is no RCT for the diet either but that has not stopped anyone from pushing the issue. CT is as much a part of a paleo template as the diet is. Last time I checked there was no heating in a cave, heated seated in Fred Flinstone’s car, or down comforter’s in the stone age.

  109. Meghan Miller May 14, 2012 at 10:40 am - Reply

    I’m also interested to hear response to Cody and TheKid’s post! I’m up like clock work everynight anywhere from 1-3p to go to the bathroom despite how much water i’ve had to drink.

  110. JanSz May 14, 2012 at 11:46 am - Reply

    172 @TheKid
    I am looking for a source for liposomal pregnenolone, preferably as pills.

  111. Brad Hoopingarner May 14, 2012 at 12:03 pm - Reply

    Hey Doc,we missed you on the cruise. Great article! I’m with you 100% Pediatrician in MI.

    • Jack May 14, 2012 at 3:12 pm - Reply

      @Brad thanks I appreciate it. I think its time for like minded physicians to do our thing to help people instead of trying to control the message.

  112. Lawrence Daher May 14, 2012 at 3:37 pm - Reply

    @Jack comment 164 They are jealous of you in my opinion but I am impressed with how you have stayed above the fray & keep moving forward. You have brought something to the community that they did not see & oh how they desperately wish that it was themselves that did it instead of some guy that started blogging last May. You have the knowledge & science to back your claims. Jealousy is an ugly thing but forgot about them & continue to help the people like you currently do. You are doing what you were meant to do.

    • Jack May 14, 2012 at 4:52 pm - Reply

      @Lawrence I have chosen to focus on those I can help and not those throwing stones. One matters the others are just wasting my time and energy.

  113. justjoan060 May 14, 2012 at 4:18 pm - Reply

    Re: #181. I am changing my lifestyle, Jack, thanks to you. I started LR on Saturday and am committed to this. My chol, trig numbers etc are awesome but I only know I have heart disease because after a false positive stress test at Mayo, they did a cath. Showed several minor 20% and one toward 40% blockage. I do have the genetic Lp(a) for what it’s worth. I’m weaning off my statin also. Haven’t tried CT yet, I want to get a firm grip on the reset first. Thanks for being the square peg I’ve been looking for!!

    • Jack May 14, 2012 at 4:53 pm - Reply

      @Just Joan Get on high dose K2 and get your vitamin D level to optimal too……big helps. I have blogs written on both.

  114. Dali Dula May 14, 2012 at 4:53 pm - Reply

    @cody,megan and the kid, I used to wake up every night at 3 am to pee. This stopped when i started getting the whole circadian thing dialed. Try to go to bed as early as possible and don’t consume any calories liquid or solid for four hours before bed. This allows your digestion to shut down. I missed this very important point for months. I drink herb tea or decaf with nothing added in the evenings. Drinking water does not make me have to go at night.

  115. Jack May 14, 2012 at 8:12 pm - Reply

    If you want to see why the cell membrane controls signaling read this……

  116. TheKid May 15, 2012 at 1:21 am - Reply

    @Dali – Thanks for the the tip. That is great advice and it is something I need to pay better attention to. I like to sleep early at 9:30pm, but that can be hard pulling off consistently. That would mean dinner at 5:00pm and nothing after 5:30pm.

    @Jack – Seems there are a number of people experiencing this same problem related to urination. Any chance of a short blog post that breaks down that entire system and what governs it? I think it would be very helpful since without rock solid sleep, many other changes will be for naught. Thanks.

  117. AmyK May 15, 2012 at 6:44 am - Reply

    The horse may not have survived, but this lady did:

  118. TheKid May 15, 2012 at 7:05 am - Reply

    @Dali @Cody @Megan – I was just reading something that Robb Wolf wrote about urination at night. I am still waiting on the results of my salivary cortisol tests, but if those show high levels of cortisol, then I might have my answer, or at least I’ll have one thing to fix and to reevaluate over time to rule cortisol out.

    “Hormonal Effects of Sleep

    This could be a long post unto itself, but I’d like to look at the action of sleep deprivation on aldosterone. Interestingly, sleep deprivation blocks the nighttime pulsitile release of aldosterone with an interesting effect…of increasing nighttime urine production. Elevated cortisol & hyperinsulinism both alter normal sleep cycles, and have as clinical manifestations, increased nighttime urine production. Which further disturbs sleep, buggaring insulin sensitivity and increasing cortisol levels. You could look at it like this: Hyperinsulinism causes us to retain sodium and water, but also tends to disturb sleep. this alters normal nighttime aldosterone production…causing the frequent trips to the privy at night.”

  119. TheKid May 15, 2012 at 7:08 am - Reply

    @Dali @Cody @Megan – Here is the PubMed article linked by Robb Wolf on the topic.

    Excess diuresis and natriuresis during acute sleep deprivation in healthy adults

    • Jack May 15, 2012 at 7:19 am - Reply

      @TheKid I think we talked about this issue on Skype during your education consult. When you get your labs back we will likely get the answer. It is likely a renin/angiotensin/aldosterone/ADH/cortisol axis issue.

  120. Kristi May 15, 2012 at 10:05 am - Reply

    @Jack, I found your informative site about 6 weeks ago, and already seriously profound changes have taken place in my life. I was a nightly beer drinker for 20 years, which I gave up overnight 3.5 weeks ago. I bought Rob Wolff’s book, and have been eating a paleo diet since the day I gave up my beer habit. I started doing CT 2.5 weeks ago, and I’ve lost 12 pounds already. You’ve probably touched on this elsewhere, but I’m curious about other ways CT may come into play during the day. For instance, my co-worker keeps the A/C on at work constantly, which I complained about for 2 years until I read about CT, now I embrace the cold (I sit under the vent), and I’m finding myself comfortable in it. I am exposed to this for about 6-7 hours 4 days a week. Additionally, I live in the mountains of NM, and I am often out in the cold. For instance I took a 3-hour mountain bike ride on Sunday in the rain, which turned to sleet, while only in bike shorts and a short-sleeved jersey (I had a jacket in case I needed it.) Will these sorts of things assist in becoming cold-adapted? Can they be worked into regular CT routines? Finally, I live at 7500 ft, and I am often between 7500 and 9500 feet. How might altitude affect dietary needs, cold adaptation, and the path towards optimal living? Thank you so much for your wealth of information.

    • Jack May 15, 2012 at 11:52 am - Reply

      @kristi read the quick start guide on CT……it has all the conditions that CT can help.

  121. Hari Seldon May 15, 2012 at 12:45 pm - Reply


    A friend of mine just had major emergency surgery that required removing part of his small intestine and colon (blood clot in intestines). He’s now open to improving his lifestyle and diet. I think he’ll be open to CT and Keto-paleo once he’s able to eat solid foods again.

    What foods must he absolutely avoid in your opinion? Any ‘must’ supplements too, since I have no doubt he’ll have some digestion and absorption issues; thus, increasing his chances for nutritional deficiencies.


    • Jack May 15, 2012 at 2:23 pm - Reply

      @Hari anything on a SAD would be on the avoid list. Supplementation and best type of diet depends upon what was resected and what was left and why did it happen……clots in the gut are not normal. That sounds like APS and it means he maybe on coumadin too.

  122. Paul Halliday May 17, 2012 at 2:39 pm - Reply

    Thanks for the link to ‘Leaving the Ice Age’, Dr Kruse. I am intrigued as to the context of you posting the link, though.

    Keep it up! They only attack you when they know you’re dangerous.

    • Jack May 17, 2012 at 4:18 pm - Reply

      @Paul thanks.

  123. JanSz May 17, 2012 at 8:13 pm - Reply

    From Spectracell seminar on telomeres.

    Resveratrol protect telomeres.
    HGH protect telomeres.
    But resveratrol neutralizes HGH.
    So use one or the other.

    telomerase, enzyme that regrows telomeres.

    25% people have it.
    Can be bought $25000 per infussion.
    Should do it only at older age.
    Telomerase infusion may start dormant cancer.

    Vit E, is a key factor in preserving telomere.
    Do not overdose. Max 800mg/day
    Can be overdosed just by eating some fat food.

    probiotics are big in protecting telomeres.

    From one to another test deviations within 4% are expected.
    10% diference requires diligent investigation.

    • Jack May 18, 2012 at 6:26 am - Reply

      @JanSz Nothing there surprises me.

  124. Santiago May 18, 2012 at 4:13 am - Reply


    thanks for the information. Very interesting.
    When you refer to HGH you mean external intake, or that applies as well to the naturally released after a work out?


  125. JanSz May 18, 2012 at 7:52 am - Reply

    She was talking from pov of telomeres.
    In presence of supplemental resveratrol, supplementing with HGH will not provide any additional telomere protection.
    Approx quote=waste of $$.

    But, she did not elaborated about any other supplemental HGH benefits.

    That would have been good question.

    dr Kruse
    any comments on her statement that only 25% people have telomerase enzyme,
    and therefore are able to rebuild their telomeres?


    • Jack May 18, 2012 at 8:39 am - Reply

      @JanSz It is true as of today but science today thinks this enzyme is inducible but we do not know how to do it…….there was just an interesting study done in the GI literature about how they got positive induction of gut flora just from the use of red wine with high levels of resveratrol.

      HGH can be raised by many things we do normally…….
      But if one’s IGF1 stays low…….then you have to consider an arginine suppression test for HGH to see if GH levels are shot at the pituitary level. This is very common after head injuries and intracranial damage. Adult GH deficiency is a real problem for about 5% of the population.

  126. Carol Morris May 24, 2012 at 12:21 pm - Reply

    Thank you for your courage, generosity and depth of knowledge. I was mortified when I saw your cruise horror story on Fox and Friends. Thank you for rising above…In, but above the battle…hope you find the boogers soon. You make us all winners!!

    My husband and I have been doing LeptinRX for 6 weeks. We have some questions, but I will figure out where and when to post them(not experienced in posting, love to read them).

    thank you again and big hugs!!

    • Jack May 24, 2012 at 6:07 pm - Reply

      @Carol Thanks. I dont plan on stopping what I am doing. I cant please everyone and those who do wind up not helping anyone.

  127. Andrew Martin May 25, 2012 at 6:12 am - Reply

    Hi Dr. Kruse,

    Can you think of any reasons why CT may lead to rock bottom testosterone in a 23 year old male?

    Starting CT/Keto at the end of Feb, my blood work from the end of april had Free T of 0.68nmol/L and total T of 5.1nmol/L. SHBG was 47 nmol/L.

    It is confusing, and discouraging.


    • Jack May 25, 2012 at 6:40 am - Reply

      Andrew one reason maybe the your fat could have had a lot of aromatase activity and you could have increased your DHT and E2. Did you check them with your Free T and total. FYI all men should always check both when sampling their testosterone.

  128. Andrew Martin May 25, 2012 at 6:19 am - Reply

    Note: both free T, and total are down from the end of December.

  129. Andrew Martin May 25, 2012 at 10:16 am - Reply

    I’m getting my labs done again in 2 weeks. I’ll try to include DHT and E2 this time.

  130. Andrew Martin June 1, 2012 at 10:31 am - Reply

    Update on my progress: 23 years old, low testosterone, low body weight. Using CT to improve T and weight.

    After 3 months of CT I am down from 6ft 120lbs to 112lbs. I had my T tested after 2 months of CT and it was lower than in December.

    Everyone on the forum talks about how well they sleep after CTing. I fall asleep very quickly, then wake up 4 or so hours later, lie awake for 2 or more hours, and then fall back asleep for another 3-4 hours. Not fun.

    Cheers to the people.

    • Jack June 1, 2012 at 10:44 am - Reply

      @Andrew I think that may require you actually seeing the doctor. Sounds to me you may have a significant failure of your HPA axis or primary testicular failure. It’s time you get it looked at in my view.

  131. susan brown June 3, 2012 at 1:47 pm - Reply

    I have gained 35 pds. in 6 months following a very stressful period in my life. I have also been very sick,with abdominal pain,hair breakage,itching skin,and general ill feeling. Have had numerous ct scans,barium swallow,etc.,and nothing shows. My hr crp is 2.1,but thryroid shows normal. I feel as if I’m dying. Please help.p.s. am 62,female,and obese

    • Jack June 3, 2012 at 4:45 pm - Reply

      @Susan there is very little I can do here. You can read a lot on here and on my forum that will help you ask better questions of your physicians to get to your answers you need to get well

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